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Rear-end whineI have a 1987 Volvo 240DL. Between 58 and 62 mph, the rear-end has a very annoying whine. Do you have any suggestions? Could this possibly be a bearing that needs to be replaced or a axle alignment problem? Any suggestions you have would be greatly appreciated.Don Olsen olsendl@sprintmail.com I have no idea what could cause the problem to occur only in a narrow range of speeds. Experts, help! Shortening drivelineThis is one question I have never been able to find an answer to. I am trying to put a J overdrive in a 1964 122. The driveline center support has two pins that fit into two rubber bushings on the driveline hanger. The later models use a single rubber bushing and a metal collar that bolts to the body. Can I use a driveline from a later model P1800 and attach the early style support? Or should I try to find a driveline from a 1964 P1800? Are the support bearings interchangable? I am trying to avoid having my driveline shortened.Matt mlloyd@fix.net You can use the short shaft from any '66 or older car. I think you could also retrofit the whole newer-style support onto the older car. The actual support bearings are the same in both mounting versions. DL grille update?I have a 1983 Volvo 240 DL and I wish to change the front grille and headlights to that of the 1990 model. Is this modification possible? Will the newer grille fit into the older car?Oliver State College, PA lww105@psu.edu If it's possible at all, it would be an extensive modification -- you would need much more than just the grille and headlights. Has anyone out there done this? B20F rich cold startsI have 1975 245 with a B20F engine. On the first of the day cold start for the first 60-90 seconds it runs extremly rich and won't hardly idle. After this, it runs fine and the rest of the day starts at the touch of the key. New parts: Control Pressure Regulator, Fuel Pump, Accumulator, all Injectors, Fuel Distributor, Thermo Time Switch. Auxilary Air Valve is original but works fine. Both cold and warm control pressure within specs, as is fuel pressure and volume. And no, the cold start injector is not leaking. By the way, I also have a 1975 Audi Fox with the same Bosch K-Jetronic system and it runs excellent, which makes this even more frustrating.Davey 316333@worldnet.att.net OK, that's pretty horrible. Assuming that the auxiliary air valve really does get power and really does actuate (I don't know how you checked it, but it would be the first item I'd suspect), I think you might be looking at a (very rare) ECU failure. Can you swap in the ECU from your Audi to verify this? 240 turbo conversion?Is it possible to add a turbo to a non-turbo 240 DL? What else can I do to increase performance other than headers and an exhaust system?MWILLLIE1@prodigy.net In a word, no. But it is entirely possible to replace the entire motor, FI and exhaust systems with units from a wrecked turbo car. A header and exhaust system can go a long way, and you can also overbore and re-cam your B21. Go immediately to the ipd website and order a catalog! 240 won't start when coldI have 1976 B21F 242 GL that only has 100,000 miles on it (it's only a baby), but she does not like to start when it is cold outside. I have changed all the injectors including cold start, fuel pump and regulator. I am using Bosch ignition parts. What could it be?Mario Szczepanski mszczepa@suffolk.lib.ny.us First, as with any motor, check for vacuum leaks. Look at all the hoses and make sure there are no cracks. There may be an electrical problem: the cold start injector gets power only when the starter is cranking -- with the help of a friend, you can check for 12 Volts at its connector while cranking the car. If this doesn't help, let me know... 244 A/C idle controlI have a 1982 Volvo 244DL. It has a B21A and air conditioning. The car was a write off due to a fire in the engine compartment. I have replaced the burnt wiring, and all the plastic components from a wrecked 1983 Volvo 244DL. The car runs fine, but there must be some idle control mechanism that works with the air conditioning. There is the remains of a vacuum/electric control solenoid in the middle of the fire wall, and a strange fitting beside the idle solenoid on the intake manifold. Can you assist? How does this system work, and what components am I missing?beale@vegnet.com Beats me, but I'll try to research it. Who can tell us about this? Wet A/CI have an 1982 244 GL fitted with (I think) factory air. Every few months I find the LH front carpet wet and, upon lifting it, discover the floor well full of water. The condensation drain hose appears to be unblocked and I can never find where the water is coming from, BUT obviously it's connected with the use of the AC. Has anyone else had this problem?Darryl Georgee Townsville, Australia phaedrus@ultra.net.au I draw a blank, and I also wonder why the problem only occurs once every few months. Help, please, experts!
Expert sends: My 1984 240 had the same problem... periodic flooding of the driver's compartment floor caused by the condensate not emptying but backing up. To fix this you will need to remove the rubber drain hose, clean it and reach up in and clean out any bits of leaves. The lower end of the drain hose has two flaps that in theory open for outflow, but seal the unit from inflow. Unfortunately it can be so effective that either it doesn't open at all or opens partially and backs up water and bits of leaves. Lay the hose down and make a small wedge shaped cut (point up) from the base of the flaps up to provide a small opening.John Smullen 73667.1001@compuserve.com M46 overdrive problem1986 Volvo 240DL w/M46 Trans + OD, VIN YV1AX8843G1148440. Problem with 5th gear -- works when cold and will continue stay in (even when warm) so long as you don't shift out of 5th. Shifting out of 5th and attempting to re-engage when warm will not work. "5" indicator on dashboard does light. When problem occurs, during acceleration or maintaining speed, the engine RPMs are the same as when in 4th gear, and when decelerating there is no "engine braking."Even though I felt this was a mechanical problem, I let the dealer talk me into replacing the OD relay ($120 parts + labor). This did nothing to change the problem. In an after-market service manual, it said that a hydraulic pressure test may be done thus revealing some kind of hydraulic-related problem. Also, there is a pre-filter and a fine filter specifically in the OD unit. Dealers in both PA and MD have no desire to diagnose the problem. Both recommend wholesale replacement of unit (at least $1200).
Any experience/advice on this? Thanks. Everything electrical sounds like it's working fine. Your problem is caused by insufficient hydraulic pressure in the OD when the fluid thins as it warms. 1) Check fluid level, 2) drain fluid, clean or replace both filter screens, replace fluid with new ATF. If this does not cure the problem, the trans will have to come out of the car for new seals in the OD pump and valves. It's scary when dealers can't or won't deal with a basic problem like this -- does anyone know of a reputable repair shop in James' area? B20F in a 122SI have a '66 122 wagon and have long felt that it is underpowered with the original B18 engine. I have installed an M41 transmission with D-type OD. I am considering installing a B20 fuel injected engine and have an 1800ES parts car with all the components. I know the swap can be done; but does it make sense? What are the pitfalls? Would it be better to opt for the simpler route of installing a B20 with carbs?Neil McCabe nmccabe@cmc.net It makes sense to me (obviously, you don't care about keeping the 122 original). You would get 25% more horsepower and a big torque increase. Pitfalls: you will need the gas tank, fuel pump and complete engine wiring harness from the donor car -- I don't know if the gas tank is a bolt-in swap or not, and you'll have to run new fuel lines to it. You will have to invent some sort of throttle cable arrangement. You need the donor alternator and voltage regulator to have enough juice to run the FI (a nice improvement). You will make more power than the D-type OD is designed for, so drive nice. The car will smog-check as a '72 or '73, if you're subject to that. Simpler alternative producing a bit less HP but still lots of torque: block off the injector ports on the B20 with soft plugs, bolt on your current fuel pump, distributor and intake manifold. If you have the original separate single-downtube exhaust manifold, replace it with the donor car's double unit or a tubular header. Rejet your SU carbs with "SM" needles. In either case, you will need to open up the old exhaust system for more flow. If the B20 has an oil cooler, I'd retain it -- I think it will adapt readily to your present radiator. Plug off the oil pressure sending tube and oil temp sender in the pan, and use your present "idiot light" sender.
Expert Sends: I had a couple thoughts on a D-jet 122. One is that the fuel tank need not be replaced; the original 122 tank will work nicely with a little alteration. Everything will fit and you can make it look like a factory installation if you take the time and energy to carefully plan your approach.Cameron lovre@sns-access.com 740 third seatIs it possible to install a 3rd seat in a 740 wagon? Can you buy the seat from a dealer? Are the seat belts difficult to install? Has anyone done it? How long did it take?Wally660@aol.com I'm clueless. Who's done this out there? 240 exhaust boomI live in Germany and frequently travel on the Autobahn, where a 90 MPH cruising speed is required unless you want to remain forever in the slow lane. In order to give me a reasonable performance improvement, I've recently installed the IPD Hi-Flow Exhaust System (replaced the two mufflers with a single turbo muffler and the 2" pipe with 2 1/4" pipe) on my 1991 240. I'm pleased with the improved performance, but I have a loud resonance or booming sound between 70 - 80 MPH, which is very annoying. I'm wondering if this is inherent in the new system or if I may have installed it incorrectly where something may be rubbing or (?).
If anyone has any experience with this system or suggestions on how to decrease the noise without losing performance I'd appreciate the assistance. I would also appreciate knowing if there are any Volvo clubs or if anyone in the Heidelberg area shares my interest in maintaining my own vehicle. I had a few ideas about this problem, but Stan contacted IPD and implemented their suggestion. Here's what he has to say:
I removed the front bracket and it completely eliminated the noise. As IPD advertises, there is a slight increase in the exhaust sound, but it's not unpleasant. My concern is that the only hanger is now on the turbo muffler, which gives me a fairly long run from the header pipe back to the muffler (as you probably know, this modification eliminates the middle muffler). They mentioned something about adapting the turbo hanger and getting the original rubber O-rings back in this spot, but I haven't figured out how to do that yet. I think it will require some welding to make the bracket, so I'll need to find a welder.Stan Kromfols A/C degrades performanceMy '87 740 Turbo with 135k runs great. I live in Florida and that means I have to use my A/C for most of the year. As I drive around town it seems that the already degraded performance from using the A/C becomes progressively worse. There is a prolonged flat spot in acceleration that doesn't improve until the turbo kicks in (about 2500 RPM). The A/C is only three years old from a total system replacement and the performance did not change with the replacement.
Is this normal for the turbo model? No clue. Help, experts! 1800S clockMy father has a 1966 1800S. I was wondering if anyone has any advice on how to repair the clock. We have collected three and none of them work. Any advice, clues, or suggestions would be appreciated.Ben Hovey bkdh@postoffice.ptd.net I've never worked on this particular clock, but, assuming it's similar to other contemporary car clocks, I'll take a stab. The clock has two parts: a conventional, mainspring-driven mechanism, and an electric gadget that winds the mainspring every eight hours or so. The electricity is supplied through an internal "fusible link," a thin wire that corrodes through pretty easily over the years. You can repair this by soldering in a piece of buss wire and fusing the clock externally when you install it in the car. I would think many local watch repair shops could clean and/or fix the mechanical part of the clock, particularly since you have a stock of spare parts. Then again, there seem to be very few 1800s with working clocks out there, so maybe I'm way off base. Experts? 240s miss at idleI have a '79 242GT and an '82 242 turbo. Both of these vehicles miss at idle and at around 2500 rpm. I have replaced tune up stuff like plugs, wires, and cap and rotor (all Bosch). I have replaced the fuel filter and air filter. I have run a compression check and all of the cylinders have good compression. I have also checked each individual cylinder by grounding out the spark, and that didn't uncover any solutions. I tested the oxygen sensor, and that was working. I took the car to a local Volvo mechanic and he gave me a can of fuel additive to clean the injection system; that didn't help. I then replaced the injector seals and still that didn't help. Running high-octane gas didn't clear the miss up either. I have checked the timing it is where it should be. I read the other day that worn out cam shafts can cause problems like this too. Any suggestions would be appreciated.Seth Friesen hwiseman@placercoe.k12.ca.us You've covered any ignition problems, so let's rule that out. You therefore have either a mechanical problem or a fuel/air mixture problem. I don't think cam wear would show up on two cars only at idle and around 2500 rpm, but I would check the valve clearances (possibly set incorrectly on both cars by the same guy) and ensure the timing belt tensioners are not allowing slop. A mixture problem is more likely. Both your cars have continuous fuel injection, and a failure of the airbox thermostat (see related question) would cause an over-rich mixture under some conditions. Also common are vacuum leaks -- FI can compensate for these beyond the point where they would be apparent on a carburetted motor, but there's a limit. Check all hoses and fittings -- you may be in for a hunt; I once had a heck of a time finding the unglued lid on a fuel vapor cannister (the charcoal filter thing) that was causing me all sorts of problems. Good luck! 262C 4-speed conversionI have a 1978 volvo 262C with an automatic, and I would like to put in a 4-speed w/overdrive from a 265 wagon donor car. Is this an easy swap? Are there any manuals that could help with the swap? Any help would be appreciated.Jim Whalley (703)736-8361 jwhalley@eisi.com I think this would be a lot of work, but it should be possible. You will need the transmission, shifter, bellhousing and transmission wiring harness from the donor car, and, of course, a new clutch. The hardest part might be hanging the new pedals and routing the clutch linkage. I doubt very much that the procedure is detailed in any publication, but a Volvo shop manual on the 260 series should show you how the new installation should fit. The 262C is no different mechanically than the other 260's. Be aware that this modification will reduce the resale value of a "collectible" Volvo -- but, if that's what you want to do, go for it! 122S engine swapI realize that some of the "purists" will not want to hear this but, I have just about had it with my '67 122's Borg-Warner T-35 auto trans and B18 engine. I recently had the trans rebuilt for a cool grand and then, three months later, it spit it's chunks again. (bad luck with local trans shop). Anyway, I am wondering if anyone has ever swapped the engine / trans out with another (GM, Ford, anything really). I'm not looking to strap a heaping V8 in there; most likely a 4 cyl or possibly 6 cyl. This is not a show car, but it is in decent condition and I have spent a lot of time working on it (custom paint, replacing interior, rims, etc..). Despite constant driveline problems, this car was a blast to drive and I hate to see it just wasting away in the yard.If anyone has done a swap, or has seen one, or even has some ideas, please E-mail me with info.
Many Thanks, I'm sure it's possible to do what you're proposing, but I have an alternate solution: 1) replace your T-35 with an M41 / J-type OD Volvo transmission. It will use the same mounts and driveshaft as your T-35, and the bell housing will bolt onto your motor, and it is extremely durable. 2) Rebuild your B18 or replace it with a fresh B20. A properly put-together B20 is the most trouble-free motor known to man -- if you replace those rarely in tune SU carbs with a Weber DGV -- and it can be made to produce as much power as most domestic straight sixes. This is both simpler and less expensive than putting in -- what? A GM "iron duke?" A Ford Pinto motor? I understand your being fed-up with the T-35, but I would stick with Volvo stuff. Don't take any points off the board on purpose!
Expert sends: I'm no purist, but from a practical standpoint, I'd say Phil is right on this one. Why replace the engine when the transmission is the problem? It would be much easier to replace that crappy BW35 automatic with a nice, manual Volvo M-41 overdrive or M-40 non-overdrive transmission. Of course, you'll also need the drive shaft, bellhousing, clutch, linkage and pedal, but it's still easier than an engine swap, and the development work has already been done.Glenn Goodspeed Goodspeed's Volvo 1800 Newsletter Pulsating brakesI currently own a '86 740 GLE w/120k and I have had recurring pulsating problems with my brakes. However, my problem is warping of the two-piece upgraded rotors. I have gone through at least four sets in less than two years, including pads from VOLVO and also other manufacturers. Even went as far as installing new calipers, thinking the warping was due to excess drag on rotors! I'm not completely sold on the upgrade, and, as of 8/22/97, changed back to the original one piece rotor. My mechanic who has serviced my car for eight years, and services only VOLVOS, claims he has no way of tracking who manufactured the rotors for VOLVO. My guess is that the tempering treatment is not quite up to standards. Other than a convenience for reinstallation, what purpose was the upgrade for? Have you had any other inquries on this same situation or am I alone? If you could shed any light on this situation we would be greatly appreciative!Frank Trombino Lombard, IL. beansfam@starnetusa.com The purpose of the upgrade was to increase the size and cooling capacity of the brakes to prevent excessively rapid wear. Over-torquing lug nuts will warp rotors over a period of time -- is your mechanic putting your wheels on with an air tool? Easy rust repair?I just bought a car that's not worth a total restoration, but I want to keep it from rusting any further (or it will fall apart!). The ads for POR-15 and Hirsch Miracle Paint claim they will stop the spread of rust by painting over it.
Anyone have any experience with these products? Do they work? Are they
better than fish-oil primer? What if you need to remove the coating later? I'd like to know that myself -- what do you people think? Airbox thermostat failureIs there any way I can tell when the Airbox Thermostat has failed? It is $100.00 retail at the dealer. I drive a 1990 240 DL.Mir m-ali@ti.com Not knowing much about the newer cars, I can imagine a test involving measuring resistance between two pins of a connector and noting the change while heating the thermostat with a hair dryer. That's a wild guess and I'll list this as a "no clue." Can anyone tell us how to verify this failure?
Expert sends: Found on page 250-2 in the Bentley Volvo 240 series service manual: John H. Laughlin iisiman@mail.nwlink.com R134a conversion on a 164EI have been a Volvo owner for only a short time but I have definitely been bitten. I feel that Volvo, or at least the dealers and specialty repair shops in my area, don't hold the same fondness for the 164E. I have basically had to research everything that I have needed to know on my own, so far with a good track record, but I am stumped on this conversion problem. My AC is leaking at the high and low ports, so I though that I would do the retrofit and fix the leak at the same time, but no one seems to know just how to go about doing this. Is there a conversion kit made for this model? Will a kit from a different model fit on my car? Where is my best avenue to locate this information? The answers have been not at Volvo, I don't know, and I'm not sure. If you can help point me in the right direction it would be gladly welcomed.104 degrees in Texas, Bobby T. BBT1530@swbell.net Partial answer: everything you need to repair your system is available by mail from RPR in California. You can contact Rusty there by E-mail at rusty166@concentric.net -- he may know about the R134a conversion. I can tell you that it is not simple -- O-rings and seals need to be of a different material, and fittings will need to be changed as a minimum. The best opinions I've been able to get suggest that you have your system repaired using the original-style parts, and just run R12 in it. This work must be done by a professional shop -- you do not want to vent Freon into the atmosphere (it will just make Texas even hotter...). More advice is most welcome, experts.
Expert sends: Might I suggest my web page for more information about the conversion from R-12 to R-134a? Look in the Air Conditioning section. Apart from my own opinion on the subject, I've included some Internet references.Glenn ggoodspe@startext.net Back to the Top |